From: Robert Appelbaum [r_appel@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 11:52 AM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Early modern breeding The most recent in depth study of the subject of "breeding" (a word which we Americans prefer, however, to apply only to dogs) is by David Cressy. I don't have the book in front of me, but the title is something like "Birth, Marriage, and Death in Early Modern England." Lots of tables and charts and first-rate empirical research, although I find the interpretation of the data to be a little pedestrian. Perhaps someone out there with a copy at hand can give us the answer, if there is an answer. Birthrates varied considerably along class lines, and yet our evidence is best for the wealthy. --- Louis Schwartz wrote: > Alan, > > A lot depends upon which women you're talking about > (where they lived, what > socio-economic level, what age, whether they nursed, > etc.). There may be > more recent work done on the question, but when I > was rooting around among > the demographic historians I found the following > stats: For women in > London among the wealthier classes the average birth > interval was > approximately 23 months with some sets of statistics > yeilding averages as > short as 20.5 months. Among lower-class women the > rate was slower (approx. > 27 months) because they tended to nurse their own > and others' children. 18 > months was, of course, physically possible for some > women, and some no > doubt experienced intervals that short, but on > average it was slower. Also > the intervals tended to lengthen as a woman got > older. There are other > factors that affected the length of time as well (if > an infant died, for > example, the interval to the next birth was often > shorter, etc). These > numbers were culled from Roger Finlay's *Population > and Metropolis: The > Demography of London 1580-1650 (Cambridge, 1981), > 133-50 and Dorothy > McLaren's "Marital Fertility and Lactation > 1570-1720," in *Women in English > Society 1500-1800,* ed. Mary Prior (London, 1986), > 22-53. McLaren's essay > looks at demographic information from parishes in > Oxfordshire, > Buckinhamshire, and Hertforshire and from family > reconstruction work done > in Somerset. She reports much longer birth > intervals for women who nursed > their own and others' infants, which she observes > was most women in the > period, and establishes the very different pattern > experienced by wealthier > women who hired the other women as wet nurses. You > may be able to figure > where your subject falls in all of the highly > educated speculation on the > matter. > > Louis Schwartz > > At 12:26 PM 07/27/2000 -0800, you wrote: > > > >Recently I was trying to figure out a "likely" > birthdate for someone who > >had x elder brothers and y elder sisters, the only > d.o.b known being that > >of the firstborn son. Disagreeing with my > predecessor in this exercise > >(who reckoned two years between births), I thought > 18 months was likely, on > >the perhaps flippant ground that if my mother > could do it early modern > >woman must have been able to. > > > >Then the thought presented itself that someone (L. > Stone?) must have done > >some research on this; there must be somewhere a > statistic giving the > >average number of months between births, perhaps > even doing it in what some > >would nowadays doubtless call "racist" ways, i.e. > looking at the Irish, > >Scots, and Welsh separately from the English. > I'm thinking of the > >time-period 1600-1620 more or less. And the county > of Hereford, if that > >should make a difference. > > > >Alan Rudrum > > > > > > > > ======================================= > Louis Schwartz > English Department > University of Richmond > Richmond, VA 23173 > > (804) 289-8315 > lschwart@richmond.edu > ===== Robert AppelbaumFellow, English Department, University of San DiegoFellow, Folger Shakespeare Library, Washington D.C.Fellow, Newberry Library, ChicagoVisit my home page: www.geocities.com/r_appel/Robert.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/