From: Phillip Sidney Horky [phorky@umich.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 1:23 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Where's John? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-milton-l@richmond.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: milton-l@richmond.edu Hello, friends. I am still looking for a contact email or postal address for John Shawcross. The email address that I have does not work (jtshaw@pop.uky.edu). Kind thanks, Phillip Horky _____________________________________________________________________ "The first and wisest of them all profess'd To know this only, that he nothing knew." -The Son, _Paradise Regain'd_ "For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another." _Galatians_5:13 "Dim as the borrowed beams of moon and stars To lonely, weary, wandering travellers, Is reason to the soul...." -John Dryden, _Religio Laici_ ____________________________________________________________________ Phillip Horky Student, LS&A Honors The University of Michigan Ann Arbor From: John Ulreich [jcu@u.arizona.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 1:14 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: sources for Lycidas At 09:13 PM 03/06/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Is this a typo? There is no 22nd chapter in John. Yes, I meant 21, vv. 15-19: "Feed my lambs," &ct. Thanks for catching the error; I hope the suggestions (which I've double-checked) are helpful. I could specify these references, and add others, but the best course for anyone trying to trace these "sources" would be to use a concordance. > >On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:39:49 -0700 John Ulreich >writes: > > The Bible, passim--especially (in no particular order of importance: > > the > > two (pseudonymous) Letters of Peter, John 10 and 22, Ezekiel 34, and > > Hosea > > (passim), not to mention other bits in the Gospels (esp. Matthew), > > Revelation (esp. 21), and Isaiah. > > > > John > > > > John C. Ulreich Professor of English > > Dept. of English - Modern Languages Bldg. #67 > > University of Arizona (520) 621-5424 > > Tucson, AZ 85721-0067 FAX: (520) 621-7397 > > > John C. Ulreich Professor of English Dept. of English - Modern Languages Bldg. #67 University of Arizona (520) 621-5424 Tucson, AZ 85721-0067 FAX: (520) 621-7397 From: Dan Knauss [tiresias@juno.com] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 8:59 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Lycidas & Geneva Bible Jean, Thanks to you and others for the Geneva Bible information. I heard about the Pilgrim edition on the Ficino listserv as well, and it's waiting in my library ILL office. The student who asked you for help with Lycidas sources may also want to check Isaiah 56:9-12 (on corrupt leaders/shepherds) and Psalm 82. The latter text is quoted by Jesus in John 10:34 to defend his claim of divinity. He only quotes one verse, but he undoubtedly relies on his audience to know the context since it adds to his criticism of the "establishment" as blind and corrupt. I'd also add John 9:35-41 since these verses preface chapter 10 and introduce the charge of spiritual blindness Jesus is launching against the Pharisees. The Isaiah reference says much of the same thing (the leaders/shepherds are corrupt) the same way. Dan Knauss On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 13:40:24 -0500 Jean Graham writes: > Princeton's library lists a reprint of the 1602 edition, ed. Gerald > T. > Sheppard and published by Pilgrim Press, 1989. > Jean Graham > Thanks to all for the tips re. Lycidas and sources--the request was > not > from one of my grad students, but from someone in Hawaii who > e-mailed me > out of the blue and whose topic sounded interesting. So I don't know > what he has done/is doing with our aid. > Dan Knauss wrote: > > > > Are there facsimile editions of the Geneva Bible available other > than the > > 1560 edition published by the University of Wisconsin-Madison > Press? The > > later editions have much more extensive footnotes that put a > stronger > > Reformed spin on passages, and this is what I'm interested in. > Also, is > > it known what English translations of the Bible Milton used? I > can't > > imagine he didn't use a late Geneva edition, but it would be > useful to > > know for sure. > > > > Dan Knauss - ICQ#41102114 > > tiresias@juno.com - daniel.knauss@marquette.edu > From: Dan Knauss [tiresias@juno.com] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 9:14 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: sources for Lycidas Is this a typo? There is no 22nd chapter in John. On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:39:49 -0700 John Ulreich writes: > The Bible, passim--especially (in no particular order of importance: > the > two (pseudonymous) Letters of Peter, John 10 and 22, Ezekiel 34, and > Hosea > (passim), not to mention other bits in the Gospels (esp. Matthew), > Revelation (esp. 21), and Isaiah. > > John > > John C. Ulreich Professor of English > Dept. of English - Modern Languages Bldg. #67 > University of Arizona (520) 621-5424 > Tucson, AZ 85721-0067 FAX: (520) 621-7397 From: Chris [CORCHARD@oak.grove.iup.edu] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 1:58 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Cc: CORCHARD@oak.grove.iup.edu Subject: Milton's politics NO, he was not a Leveller and for an interesting textual take on anti-levelling rhetoric, check out Samuel Sheppard's 1650 levelling poem that re-casts Spenser's giant in book 5 of FQ. Chris Orchard From: Margaret Thickstun [mthickst@hamilton.edu] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 4:03 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Geneva Bible I have a facsimile edition of the annotated 1602 edition of the Geneva Bible, New Testament only, from the Pilgrim Press (1989). Their address is (or at least was) 132 West 31 St, NYC, NY 10001. The margins have extensive commentary--what a strain it must have been on everyone's, and Milton's, eyes! Margaret Thickstun Department of English Hamilton College 198 College Hill Rd Clinton, NY 13323 (315)859-4466 From: Jean Graham [graham@tcnj.edu] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 1:40 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Geneva Bible Princeton's library lists a reprint of the 1602 edition, ed. Gerald T. Sheppard and published by Pilgrim Press, 1989. Jean Graham Thanks to all for the tips re. Lycidas and sources--the request was not from one of my grad students, but from someone in Hawaii who e-mailed me out of the blue and whose topic sounded interesting. So I don't know what he has done/is doing with our aid. Dan Knauss wrote: > > Are there facsimile editions of the Geneva Bible available other than the > 1560 edition published by the University of Wisconsin-Madison Press? The > later editions have much more extensive footnotes that put a stronger > Reformed spin on passages, and this is what I'm interested in. Also, is > it known what English translations of the Bible Milton used? I can't > imagine he didn't use a late Geneva edition, but it would be useful to > know for sure. > > Dan Knauss - ICQ#41102114 > tiresias@juno.com - daniel.knauss@marquette.edu From: Dan Knauss [tiresias@juno.com] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 7:20 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Geneva Bible Are there facsimile editions of the Geneva Bible available other than the 1560 edition published by the University of Wisconsin-Madison Press? The later editions have much more extensive footnotes that put a stronger Reformed spin on passages, and this is what I'm interested in. Also, is it known what English translations of the Bible Milton used? I can't imagine he didn't use a late Geneva edition, but it would be useful to know for sure. Dan Knauss - ICQ#41102114 tiresias@juno.com - daniel.knauss@marquette.edu From: Peter C. Herman [herman2@mail.sdsu.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 2:06 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Milton's politics No. Milton was a staunch adherent to the principles of what he termed the "ancient constitution" (the phrase is in the Tenure of Kings and Magistrates). This means that the monarch was governed by the law, but it does not mean the end of hierarchy. On this topic, see Christopher Hill's book on Milton, and take a look at the Putney Debates, especially where Ireton faces off against the Levellers, yelling that he "would have an eye to property." Peter C. Herman At 10:10 PM 2/22/00 EST, you wrote: >Was John Milton a "leveller"? > >$ > > > > From: Robert Appelbaum [r_appel@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 7:13 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Milton's politics --- Tmsandefur@aol.com wrote: > Was John Milton a "leveller"? > No, he was a republican. Big difference. But he was probably sympathetic to some of the Levellers' complaints and proposals. ===== Robert Appelbaum English Department University of Alabama at Birmingham Birmingham, AL 35294-1260 (205) 934-8571 My apologies for the commercial intrusion below: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From: Thomas N. Corns [t.n.corns@bangor.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 1:12 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Cc: els009@bangor.ac.uk Subject: IMS7 BIDDING REOPENED FOR THE SEVENTH INTERNATIONAL MILTON SYMPOSIUM The Standing Committee of the International Milton Symposium recently voted to decline the one bid it had received to host IMS7. New bids are invited, to reach me no later than 14 April 2000. I am happy to give informal guidance to anyone considering a bid. The bid could be to host the symposium in either 2002 or 2003. Thomas N. Corns Secretary The Standing Committee of the International Milton Symposium