From: Kimberly Latta [lattak@slu.edu] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 12:58 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Milton Society of America Dear Miltonists: I am trying to locate the address of Edward Jones, who is listed under the General Session II panel of the Milton Society of America in the latest Call for Papers for the MLA Convention next year. There are two Edward Joneses in the PMLA handbook, and the e-mail addresses supplied there have not worked for me. Does anyone on the list know of Professor Jones's address? I'd be very grateful for this information. Best regards, Kimberly Latta Assistant Professor of English Saint Louis University 221 N. Grand Blvd. Saint Louis, MO 63103 314/977-3387 From: Gayle Swanson [gswanson@netside.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 8:45 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Recognize this fragmentary quote? Yes, it's from _Samson Agonistes_, l. 654: Chor. Many are the sayings of the wise In antient and in modern books enroll'd; Extolling Patience as the truest fortitude; And to the bearing well of all calamities, All chances incident to mans frail life Consolatories writ With studied argument, and much perswasion sought Lenient of grief and anxious thought, But with th' afflicted in his pangs thir sound Little prevails, or rather seems a tune, Harsh, and of dissonant mood from his complaint, Unless he feel within Some sourse of consolation from above; Secret refreshings, that repair his strength, And fainting spirits uphold. -- Dr. Gayle R. Swanson 138 Shawn Rd. Chapin SC 29036 USA Tel: 803-345-3251 Fax: 803-345-3836 From: MATTHEW L PRINEAS [PRINMATT@FS.isu.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 8:11 AM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: sources for Lycidas Jean, Since your student is reading the Bible, passim, he may also find useful the argument in Hebrews about the obsolescence of the old priesthood and the superiority of Christian faith (some have heard an echo of Heb. 12.26-7 in the first line of Lycidas). Matt Prineas Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:39:49 -0700 To: milton-l@richmond.edu From: John Ulreich Subject: Re: sources for Lycidas Reply-to: milton-l@richmond.edu At 02:18 PM 02/02/2000 -0500, you wrote: >I had a request today from a graduate student in Hawaii who wanted >assistance in locating non-classical sources for "Lycidas." I gave him >a few suggestions, but this isn't an area I've explored. Any ideas? > >Jean > The Bible, passim--especially (in no particular order of importance: the two (pseudonymous) Letters of Peter, John 10 and 22, Ezekiel 34, and Hosea (passim), not to mention other bits in the Gospels (esp. Matthew), Revelation (esp. 21), and Isaiah. John John C. Ulreich Professor of English Dept. of English - Modern Languages Bldg. #67 University of Arizona (520) 621-5424 Tucson, AZ 85721-0067 FAX: (520) 621-7397 From: John Leonard [jleonard@julian.uwo.ca] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 7:43 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Recognize this fragmentary quote? - >I am editing a book on the theme of fortitude, and recently came across >the following fragment from Milton: > >"Extolling patience as the truest fortitude." > >Can anyone tell me the source of this line? I'd be most grateful for >your help. > >Malinda Teel > > Samson Agonistes, line 654. John Leonard From: Lew Kaye-Skinner [L.Kaye-Skinner@navix.net] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 1:51 AM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Recognize this fragmentary quote? Malinda, The quote is from Samson Agonistes, line 654. Lew Kaye-Skinner Ph.D. Candidate English Department University of Nebraska-Lincoln *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 02/15/2000, at 10:12 PM, Malinda P Teel wrote: >I am editing a book on the theme of fortitude, and recently came across >the following fragment from Milton: > >"Extolling patience as the truest fortitude." > >Can anyone tell me the source of this line? I'd be most grateful for >your help. > >Malinda Teel From: Timothy Wieneke [t_wieneke@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 1:13 AM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Recognize this fragmentary quote? >From: Malinda P Teel >Reply-To: milton-l@richmond.edu >To: milton-l@richmond.edu >Subject: Recognize this fragmentary quote? >Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 22:12:25 -0500 > >I am editing a book on the theme of fortitude, and recently came across >the following fragment from Milton: > >"Extolling patience as the truest fortitude." > >Can anyone tell me the source of this line? I'd be most grateful for >your help. > >Malinda Teel > > Malinda, It's line 654 from "Samson Agonistes". Tim ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From: Thomas Fulton [thomas.fulton@yale.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 8:39 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Recognize this fragmentary quote? It's from the Chorus in Samson Agonistes, line 654 On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Malinda P Teel wrote: > I am editing a book on the theme of fortitude, and recently came across > the following fragment from Milton: > > "Extolling patience as the truest fortitude." > > Can anyone tell me the source of this line? I'd be most grateful for > your help. > > Malinda Teel > > > > From: Richard Watkins [watkins39@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 7:44 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: sources for Lycidas In a letter to the TLS, Aug 24-30, 1990, E.E. Duncan-Jones noted that the opening lines of the poem allude to 2 Maccabees vi 7. Maccabees also contains a character called 'Lysias' and involves Jews being forced to eat swine in a manner reminiscent of the disgusting eating in Peter's speech, 113-131. The setting of Maccabees, in a Greek-occupied Judea where the native religion is oppressed, would be relevant to a Puritan writing an anti-Laudian poem in the late-1630s; what's more, Catholics used Maccabees to justify their habit of praying for the dead, which lead Protestants to reject it as apocryphal. Milton's poem is apparently such a prayer, or perhaps refuses to be. Richard Watkins St. Hugh's College, Oxford England >From: John Ulreich >Reply-To: milton-l@richmond.edu >To: milton-l@richmond.edu >Subject: Re: sources for Lycidas >Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:39:49 -0700 > >At 02:18 PM 02/02/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >I had a request today from a graduate student in Hawaii who wanted > >assistance in locating non-classical sources for "Lycidas." I gave him > >a few suggestions, but this isn't an area I've explored. Any ideas? > > > >Jean > > >The Bible, passim--especially (in no particular order of importance: the >two (pseudonymous) Letters of Peter, John 10 and 22, Ezekiel 34, and Hosea >(passim), not to mention other bits in the Gospels (esp. Matthew), >Revelation (esp. 21), and Isaiah. > >John > >John C. Ulreich Professor of English >Dept. of English - Modern Languages Bldg. #67 >University of Arizona (520) 621-5424 >Tucson, AZ 85721-0067 FAX: (520) 621-7397 > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From: Malinda P Teel [mpteel@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 10:12 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Recognize this fragmentary quote? I am editing a book on the theme of fortitude, and recently came across the following fragment from Milton: "Extolling patience as the truest fortitude." Can anyone tell me the source of this line? I'd be most grateful for your help. Malinda Teel From: Dan Knauss [tiresias@juno.com] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 11:38 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: sources for Lycidas James Hanford has an essay ("The Pastoral Elegy and Milton's Lycidas" PMLA XXV, 1910) on classical and post-classical sources for the poem. It's reprinted in a book of his essays called _John Milton: Poet and Humanist_ (Western Reserve UP, 1966) and also in _Milton's Lycidas: The Tradition and the Poem (U. Missouri P., 1983). The main renaissance authors Hanford covers are Petrarch, Boccaccio, Sannazarro, Ronsard, and Spenser. _Milton's Lycidas_ also includes F. T. Prince's essay, "The Italian Element in Lycidas" (from _The Italian Element in Milton's Verse_, Oxford, 1954: 71-88). I think the Variorum commentary on Milton has notes other critical sources on this topic as well in the volume that covers Lycidas. Dan Knauss On Wed, 02 Feb 2000 14:18:42 -0500 Jean Graham writes: > I had a request today from a graduate student in Hawaii who wanted > assistance in locating non-classical sources for "Lycidas." I gave > him > a few suggestions, but this isn't an area I've explored. Any ideas? > > Jean > > Dan Knauss - ICQ#41102114 tiresias@juno.com - daniel.knauss@marquette.edu Fær-spel Studios: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~dpknauss "every word ... is a beginning and an end" =//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\= From: John Ulreich [jcu@u.arizona.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 4:40 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: sources for Lycidas At 02:18 PM 02/02/2000 -0500, you wrote: >I had a request today from a graduate student in Hawaii who wanted >assistance in locating non-classical sources for "Lycidas." I gave him >a few suggestions, but this isn't an area I've explored. Any ideas? > >Jean > The Bible, passim--especially (in no particular order of importance: the two (pseudonymous) Letters of Peter, John 10 and 22, Ezekiel 34, and Hosea (passim), not to mention other bits in the Gospels (esp. Matthew), Revelation (esp. 21), and Isaiah. John John C. Ulreich Professor of English Dept. of English - Modern Languages Bldg. #67 University of Arizona (520) 621-5424 Tucson, AZ 85721-0067 FAX: (520) 621-7397 From: Dan Knauss [tiresias@juno.com] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 11:43 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: What is Lycidas? On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 02:47:00 -0500 Dan Knauss writes: > I am new to this list, having finally joined after hearing much good > about it from other students of Renaissance literature. I am a PhD > student at Marquette University, and I'm revising a paper I've wrote > last > year on Lycidas that sets out to explain -what- he is. I'm curious > to see > what feedback I might get from the list on this topic. I have "wrote" many things by email at night after a few drinks, and my verbs tend to sufffer as a result. ;-) The paper I mentioned is, in revised form, now online at http://www4.ncsu.edu/unity/users/d/dpknauss/www/Essays I've received some comments on it and will be happy to have more. Dan Knauss - ICQ#41102114 tiresias@juno.com - daniel.knauss@marquette.edu Fær-spel Studios: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~dpknauss "every word ... is a beginning and an end" =//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\= From: Daniel W.Doerksen [dwd@unb.ca] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 8:26 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Call for essay proposals and submissions: Centered on the Word (Apologies to those who may already have read this notice on FICINO, ALBION-L or the DONNE list) CENTERED ON THE WORD: LITERATURE, SCRIPTURE, AND THE TUDOR-STUART MIDDLE WAY EDITORS: Daniel W. Doerksen (author of _Conforming to the Word: Herbert, Donne, and the English Church before Laud_, 1997), Department of English, University of New Brunswick, Box 4400, Fredericton, N.B., E3B 5A3, Canada. E-mail: dwd@unb.ca and Christopher Hodgkins (author of _Authority, Church, and Society in George Herbert: Return to the Middle Way_, 1993), Department of English, 132A McIver Building, University of North Carolina, P.O. Box 26170, Greensboro, NC 27402-6170 USA. E-mail: cthodgki@uncg.edu We are proposing a collection of original essays by literary and historical scholars to help remedy a gap by giving attention to important but neglected aspects of the late Tudor and early Stuart Church of England, and especially to the literary ramifications. The eager attention to Scripture that accompanied the English Reformation, both spurring it and resulting from it, is well known. In describing the late Elizabethan church, Peter Lake speaks of a dominant "word-centred piety" which Hooker sought to replace with a "sacrament-centred" one. [It must be understood that Word and Sacrament were both considered essential elements of the church - we take "centering" to be a matter of emphasis.] Recent historians have noted that advocates of "avant-garde conformity" were few in number through the reign of James, and that proponents of the word - Scripture and preaching - continued to dominate the English church. And Hooker himself and Andrewes exemplified the power of the word even as they sought in some ways to curb it. While some modern writers have deprecated such a verbal and biblical focus, even blaming it for some outbursts of iconoclasm, what has often been overlooked is the positive effect that such a centering could and did have on the great literature of the time, much of it religious. For it can be claimed that the Scriptures are a much richer resource for writers than has generally been acknowledged. It seems more than coincidental that the time of such word-centeredness in the church coincides with what many agree is the high point of English Renaissance literature. (With notable exceptions, the modern excitement about the Bible both as literature, and as related to literature seems not to have spilled over much into consideration of English Early Modern writers.) In the past much has been written about the puritans as dissatisfied with the English church, but relatively little about moderate or even fully conforming puritans, like Richard Sibbes. Similarly, literary accounts have usually associated non-puritans like Herbert with Hooker, Andrewes, or Laud, generally ignoring the moderate episcopal Calvinists who provided leadership in the Elizabethan and Jacobean church. It was under these moderate Calvinist leaders that the extraordinary literary achievement of Bible's Authorized Version saw print in 1611. These people were not generally preoccupied with predestinarian teaching (which Calvin himself had cautioned should be handled with care), but rather with conveying in words both true and beautiful the doctrine and inner spiritual life of reformed Christianity. Words, however, were not to be idolized, nor severed from the divine Word, or from the world of action and responsibility. It was this Word-centered church that substantially formed the milieu of Spenser, Shakespeare, Donne, Herbert, and the young Milton, not to mention numerous other remarkable writers. It is time that this religious milieu be taken more properly into account as a literary force. The proposed collection of essays is intended to continue a recent practice of mutual cooperation between historians and writers on literature. Prospective literary contributors should show awareness of recent historical findings (see, for example, the brief bibliography below), and prospective historical contributors should demonstrate an interest in literary implications. We are calling for essays not exceeding 8000 words to be submitted no later than October 1, 2000, and the editors prefer the Chicago style. Final decisions about inclusion of essays will be made by the editors. Inquiries, tentative proposals, and finished papers may be submitted to either editor; papers should be submitted in duplicate. BRIEF HISTORICAL BIBLIOGRAPHY Patrick Collinson, _The Religion of Protestants: The Church in English Society, 1559-1625_, 1982. Julian Davies, _The Caroline Captivity of the Church: Charles I and the Remoulding of Anglicanism, 1625-1641_, 1992. Susan Doran and Christopher Durston, _Princes, Pastors and People: The Church and Religion in England, 1529-1689_, 1991. Kenneth Fincham, ed., _The Early Stuart Church, 1603-1642_, 1993. Kenneth Fincham, _Prelate as Pastor: The Episcopate of James I_, 1990. Charles and Katherine George, ed., _The Protestant Mind of the English Reformation, 1570-1640_, 1961. Peter Lake, _Anglicans and Puritans?: Presbyterianism and English Conformist Thought from Whitgift to Hooker_, 1988. Peter Lake, _Moderate Puritans and the Elizabethan Church_, 1982. Anthony Milton, _Catholic and Reformed: The Roman and Protestant Churches in English Protestant Thought 1600-1640_, 1995. Kevin Sharpe, _The Personal Rule of Charles I_, 1992. Nicholas Tyacke, _Anti-Calvinists: The Rise of English Arminianism c. 1590-1640_, 1987. Dewey Wallace, _Puritans and Predestination: Grace in English Protestant Theology, 1525-1695_, 1982. Daniel W. Doerksen, Ph.D. E-mail: dwd@unb.ca Honorary Research Professor Department of English University of New Brunswick Fredericton, N.B., Canada E3B 5A3 From: hal mc whinnie [halchaos@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 11:11 AM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: illustrations for paradise lost i am illustrating paradise lost, all twelve books. I am using only abstract images basd on fractal and chaos theory. do you know of any other non-figurative attempts to illustrate this work hal mc whinnie garden of earthly delights author of satan as hero From: Larry Isitt [isitt@cofo.edu] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 11:31 AM To: Milton List Cc: Larry Isitt Subject: "Milton's Theology of the Son" Murfreesboro Dear Miltonists, I was not able to attend the 1999 Murfreesboro conf. and have not seen any summary of the plenary sessions on the M-list. Can anyone summarize for me the panel findings from the plenary session, "Milton's Theology of the Son"? Did the panel feel it was / was not helpful to debate to find a proper label for Milton's theology in De doc and Par Lost? Thanks, Larry Isitt College of the Ozarks From: t.n.corns@bangor.ac.uk Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:46 AM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: British Milton Seminar 21 (Spring meeting 2000) THE BRITISH MILTON SEMINAR BMS 21 SPRING MEETING, 2000 Saturday 18 March 2000 FINAL NOTICE Venue: In the Shakespeare Memorial Library, Birmingham City Library on Saturday 18 March 2000. There will be two sessions, from 11.00 am to 12.30 pm and from 2.00 pm to 4.00 pm. In all there will be four papers with related discussions. Programme:(am) John Rumrich (U of Texas, Austin), 'Milton's Timepiece: "On time"; Su Fang Ng (Michigan and Mainz), 'Milton's Family of Brothers': (pm) Lee Morrissey (Clemson), 'Reading in Milton and Dryden: "with more than a literal wisdom of enquiry"'; John Coffey (Leicester), 'John Milton and political violence in post-Restoration England'. The Library is situated conveniently close both to New Street Station and to large carparks. A map of central Birmingham is available on request. The seminar is open to academic and related staff and to postgraduate students, so do please draw it to the attention of others who may be interested. Yours sincerely Thomas N. Corns Joint Convener --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ I shall/ shall not be attending BMS 21 on Saturday 18 March 2000 Name........................................................................ ............................................... Address..................................................................... ............................................... Please reply to Professor T N Corns, Dept of English, University of Wales, Bangor, Gwynedd LL57 2DG; els009@bangor.ac.uk From: Jean Graham [graham@tcnj.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 2:19 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: sources for Lycidas I had a request today from a graduate student in Hawaii who wanted assistance in locating non-classical sources for "Lycidas." I gave him a few suggestions, but this isn't an area I've explored. Any ideas? Jean From: Peter C. Herman [herman2@mail.sdsu.edu] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 3:01 AM To: FICINO@listserv.utoronto.ca; milton-l@richmond.edu; RENAIS-L@Listserv.Louisville.edu; spenser-l@darkwing.uoregon.edu Subject: re: Call for Papers Please forgive the cross-listing: CALL FOR PAPERS Renaissance Conference of Southern California Annual Meeting 19-20 May, Huntington Library PAPERS ON ANY ASPECT OF RENAISSANCE STUDIES ARE INVITED. INTERDISCIPLINARY SUBJECTS ARE PARTICULARLY WELCOME. RCSC Annual Lecture by Henry Ansger Kelly, Director, UCLA Center for Medieval and Renaissance Studies. Abstracts of 8-10 page papers are invited by the officers of the Renaissance Conference of Southern California. Please submit electronically to: susanne.collier@csun.edu or by mail to: Dr. Susanne Collier, RCSC President Dept. of English 18111 Nordhoff St. Northridge, CA 91330-8248 DEADLINE: March 15, 2000 From: Margaret Kaner [mk227@cornell.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 7:14 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: one year job >Brandeis University seeks to make an appointment, beginning Fall, 2000, of >a one-year lecturer (with rank of Assistant Professor) in pre-1800 English >literature. We would particularly welcome candidates with expertise in >both the Renaissance and the eighteenth century. Teaching load is >normally two courses per semester. We are looking for someone who can >demonstrate excellence as both a scholar and a teacher, and with Ph.D. in >hand. We plan to interview finalists for this position at Brandeis in >March. Please send letter of application, cv, and 20 page writing sample >(with SAS postcard for acknowledgment), postmarked by February 28, 2000, to: > > Professor William Flesch > Chair of the Search Committee > Department of English, MS 023 > Brandeis University > P.O. Box 9110 > Waltham, MA 02454-9110 > >Brandeis University is an AA/Equal opportunity employer. Women and >minorities are especially encouraged to apply. > From: M.Steggle@shu.ac.uk Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 11:28 AM To: spenser-l@darkwing.uoregon.edu; milton-l@richmond.edu; shaksper@ws.bowiestate.edu Subject: CFP: Listening to the Early Modern [Apologies for cross-posting] Call for Papers: "Listening to the Early Modern" The peer-reviewed e-journal Early Modern Literary Studies (http://purl.oclc.org/emls/emlshome.html) invites submissions for a special issue entitled "Listening to the Early Modern". How did Early Modern culture perceive sound? How far can we reconstruct the ways in which speech, music, and even ambient noise were interpreted as auditory experiences, and what are the implications of this for our study of literary texts? This special issue will build on recent scholarly work in these areas as well as on the electronic journal's unique ability to incorporate sound clips into scholarly articles themselves. Submissions are invited in the following or in any related areas: speech, oratory, ballads, music and literature, the acoustics of performance, Renaissance theories of sound, acoustic metaphors, synaesthesia. The closing date for submissions is 1 September 2000. Enquiries should be directed to Matthew Steggle, M.Steggle@shu.ac.uk, the Managing Editor (Special Issues). Now in its fifth year of publication, Early Modern Literary Studies (ISSN 1201-2459) is a refereed journal serving as a formal arena for scholarly discussion and as an academic resource for researchers in the area. Articles in EMLS examine English literature, literary culture, and language during the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries; responses to published papers are also published as part of a Readers' Forum. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Dr Matthew Steggle Lecturer in English, Sheffield Hallam University Dept of Cultural Studies, Collegiate Crescent Sheffield S10 2BP U.K. Tel: (+44) 114 225 4350 Managing Editor, Early Modern Literary Studies (http://purl.oclc.org/emls/emlshome.html) Home page: http://www.shu.ac.uk/schools/cs/teaching/ms/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- From: Peter C. Herman [herman2@mail.sdsu.edu] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 5:21 AM To: FICINO@listserv.utoronto.ca; milton-l@richmond.edu; RENAIS-L@Listserv.Louisville.edu; spenser-l@darkwing.uoregon.edu Subject: re: RCSC Call for Papers A clarification to my last post. The RCSC conference will take place 19-20 May 2000. Peter C. Herman From: Dan Knauss [tiresias@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 2:47 AM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: What is Lycidas? I am new to this list, having finally joined after hearing much good about it from other students of Renaissance literature. I am a PhD student at Marquette University, and I'm revising a paper I've wrote last year on Lycidas that sets out to explain -what- he is. I'm curious to see what feedback I might get from the list on this topic. The question that started my investigation is the "Genius of the shore" passage. At the end of the swain's song, Lycidas is a martyr-like figure who has ascended to heaven only to return to earth as a genius loci or daimon. The ascent to heaven is perfectly sensible as a terminal scene where the classical apotheosis convention is reconciled with Christian views of the afterlife. But the *descent* back to earth changes everything: Lycidas becomes a disembodied terrestrial spirit. This runs completely counter to the classical and Christian models where the poem peaks at the moment of apotheosis or ascendence to heaven. Or does it? I think it is fair to say that the "Genius of the shore" segment shows a strong desire to keep Lycidas's spirit immanent. Either this urge toward immanence is strong enough to motivate Milton to blatantly ignore some pretty basic theology or else he saw a way to get around the apparent contradictions that we're not seeing. Initially I leaned toward the latter view, thinking that Milton saw more consolatory value in immanence than transcendence. That still sounded suspect, so I went through the criticism on Lycidas pretty closely, but little of it helped with my particular inquiry. Then I had a moment of luck and perhaps inspiration--or so I'd like to think. The "Genius of the shore" is actually used as a metaleptic (or transumptive) figure that calls to mind and joins two texts, one Pagan and one Christian, both focused on "pastors"--(1) Christ the good shepherd in John 10, and (2) The daimones of the golden age who ruled, or as the Athenian Stranger says in Book 4 of Plato's Laws, -shepherded- the people of the later ages. Plato and John can be read as counterparts in a historical-political analogy with the Pagan text as a proleptic and anticipatory confirmation of a Puritan's reading of the Biblical text. In bridging these two texts, Lycidas becomes the last, anachronistic (and therefore doomed) representative of the ideal, indeed divine, pastor/ruler whose age has been replaced–as the Athenian stranger warned–by an era of corrupt rule. Such corruption can only be rectified, according to the Athenian, by a revolutionary religious and political reordering of society that maximizes individual liberty and self-government. This republican sub-text might indicate to Milton, and readers who perceive it under the rubric of radical Protestantism, that there is an avenue for hope, yet one that requires a specific course of action to save "The hungry Sheep" (125) who "are not fed, / But swoln with wind, and the rank mist they draw" (126), the church that rots "inwardly" (127) as "foul contagion" (127) spreads. So Lycidas' immanence is both classical and Christian; he has been transformed into a figure who is as evocative of the holy spirit as of Hesiod's guardian daimones. There's more to this of course; if you'd like to read the whole paper and tell me what you think, please let me know. Dan Knauss - ICQ#41102114 tiresias@juno.com - daniel.knauss@marquette.edu Fær-spel Studios: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~dpknauss "every word ... is a beginning and an end" =//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\=//\\= From: Derek Wood [dwood@stfx.ca] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 11:28 AM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Vedr: Re: De Doctrina Christiana > I have been using a cd-rom with the whole Bible in original language which > is tagged so you can look up words immediately. I hope someone has thougt > of making De Doctrina Christiana available in the same mode. > > Susanne > See Michael Bauman's A Scripture Index to John Milton's De Doctrina Christiana.Binghamton NY: MRTS, 1989. dw. From: Norman T. Burns [nburns@binghamton.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 5:53 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Vedr: Re: De Doctrina Christiana This message uses a character set that is not supported by the Internet Service. To view the original message content, open the attached message. If the text doesn't display correctly, save the attachment to disk, and then open it using a viewer that can display the original character set. From: Creamer, Kevin [kcreamer@richmond.edu] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 5:17 PM To: 'Milton-L@Richmond.edu' Subject: Silence My apologies to the list for the long silence. I was distracted by both work and home life (all is well, it just got too busy), but things have now returned to normal. The messages that follow were all received in the weeks I've been away. Again, I am sorry to have caused this unintentional hiatus. Thanks for your understanding. Now back to the discussion! Take care, Kevin J.T. Creamer Milton-L Moderator University of Richmond