From: Shore.net [carlb@shore.net] Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 3:28 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Enquiry: PL Script? facsimile That Fletcher Vol 3 facsimile of the 2nd edition of PL, which John Geraghty kindly flagged as available from a bookstore in Japan, is in a way the key volume because in the footnotes to each page every deviation from the 1st edition is noted, so that in a sense both editions are fully documented there in terms of words, spelling, pointing, and lineation. In some places, as where Ed 2 has lines not found in Ed 1 (for instance at the beginning of Ed 2 Book VIII), Fletcher includes a photographic plate of the corresponding page in Ed 1. -Carl I was fortunate to get a copy directly from the Press, but that was way back in 1980. Still though, how they could not have sold all 550 copies, at $50 per, by 1980, I have no idea. They sent me # 448. I suppose they chose to print 550 in reference to the line count of PL Edition 1.[?] Of course I wish I had at that time gotten all four volumes instead of just Vol 3. I ran into Vol 4 a couple years ago in a shop in Harvard Square, so now I guess I should be checking Japanese books stores ?? for the missing two. Fletcher's footnotes, by the way, are splendidly detailed: >246 odorous] The recurrent faint s. 249 with] The t is italic. >250 Hesperian] The a is indiscernible in many copies examined. >251 only,] onely, "onely," is the Ed 1 spelling & pointing. At 28,000 yen, still cheap for the price. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Geraghty" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 2:48 AM Subject: Re: Enquiry: PL Script? > Drew, > > I have Fletcher's edition which I highly recommend. The complete reference > is: > > Fletcher, Harris Francis (editor) John Milton's Complete Poetical Works > Reproduced in Photographic Facsimile A Critical Text Edition University of > Illinois Urbana, IL 1943 > > This is in four volumes. The fist edition is in Volume 2 and the second > edition is in Volume 3. > > It is difficult to locate a complete set > > The only facsimile edition I know of currently for sale is Vol. 3 in a book > store in Japan: > > MILTON, J. Vol.3 of John Milton's Complete Poetical Works, Reproduced in > Photographic Facsimile. A Critical Text Edition Compiled and Edited by H.F. > Fletcher. * The Second Edition of Paradise Lost. Univ. of Illiniois Edition. > 455pp. > (U. of Illinois Press, 1948) LIMITED TO 550 COPIES. Original green cloth, > very good. 29x22cm. Book # ME30211 > Price: ¥ 28000.00 (approx. US$ 251.72) > > The price seems high as it is only one in a set of four. > > Their contact information is: > Kitazawa Bookstore, 2-5 Kanda-Jimbocho, Chiyodaku, TOKYO, Japan, 101-0051. > Phone: +81-3-3263-0017. Fax: +81-3-3263-0018. Email: oldbooks@kitazawa.co.jp > > I would also enjoy hearing about any other facsimile editions as i collect > them. > > hope this helps-john > > > >From: Drew Whitehead > >Reply-To: milton-l@richmond.edu > >To: milton-l@richmond.edu > >Subject: Re: Enquiry: PL Script? > >Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 21:23:48 +1000 > > > >Dear Colleagues, > > I was wondering if anyone could give me information > >about > >facsimile editions of Paradise Lost. I am aware of the 1972 Scolar Press > >facsimile of the 1667 ten book edition. So far attempts track down a copy > >of this have proved futile. Are there any other editions? > > > >Drew Whitehead > > > > > > > >Drew Whitehead > > > >Twilight Pictures: The Plays of Beaumont and Fletcher. > >http://english.uq.edu.au/drama/fletcher/ > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > From: Paula Loscocco [ploscocc@Barnard.EDU] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:58 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu; wwp-l@brownvm.brown.edu Subject: sappho A question about the term or idea of "sappho" being applied to women writers, apart from (after 1650) Katherine Philips or Aphra Behn. What EARLIER ENGLISH (OR OTHER) WOMEN WRITERS were identified, by self and/or others, as Sapphos? To what degree was this an appellation of praise and/or derogation (explicit or implied)? I'm aware of Louise Labe (so called by others & self); a possible reference to Isabella Whitney as Sappho by one F.L. in the 1600 translation of Ovid's Remedia Amoris (thanks to Raphael Lyne); (Donne's "Sapho to Philaenis" & associated criticism); Nashe on Pembroke as Sappho (thanks to Margaret Hannay); later writers like Bradstreet & Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz (10th muses, from Plato); and have read up in L. Lipking, E. Greene, P. Brown, H. Andreadis, M. Rainbolt, etc. Thanks. P.Loscocco / English / Barnard College From: AntiUtopia@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 10:11 AM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Happy Holidays Thanks, Carol, for expressing what many of us are feeling, I'm sure... Jim From: Mario A. Di Cesare [dicesare1@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 8:03 AM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Happy Holidays I'LL SECOND THAT, MOST HEARTILY!!! Mario A. Di Cesare "Carol Barton, PhD" wrote: > By way of wishing everyone a Merry Christmas -- Happy Channukah -- = > joyous Kwanzaa -- lovely winter solstice -- and whatever else you may be = > celebrating (semester end?), in addition to a happy and healthy New = > Year, let me take the liberty of assuming accord of all the members to = > thank Kevin Creamer on behalf of the List for all of his diligent and = > competent behind-the-scenes work as our resident Dogsbody, Netwallah, = > and slave-to-the-List-Serv. His job is not an easy one, especially with = > the burden of his non-List responsibilities, and though we rarely see = > his "face" online, he's always there in the shadows, making sure the = > gears are turning. > > Thanks, Kevin, from all of us! > > Carol Barton=20 From: John Geraghty [johnegeraghty@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 2:48 AM To: d.whitehead@mailbox.uq.edu.au Cc: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Enquiry: PL Script? Drew, I have Fletcher's edition which I highly recommend. The complete reference is: Fletcher, Harris Francis (editor) John Milton's Complete Poetical Works Reproduced in Photographic Facsimile A Critical Text Edition University of Illinois Urbana, IL 1943 This is in four volumes. The fist edition is in Volume 2 and the second edition is in Volume 3. It is difficult to locate a complete set The only facsimile edition I know of currently for sale is Vol. 3 in a book store in Japan: MILTON, J. Vol.3 of John Milton's Complete Poetical Works, Reproduced in Photographic Facsimile. A Critical Text Edition Compiled and Edited by H.F. Fletcher. * The Second Edition of Paradise Lost. Univ. of Illiniois Edition. 455pp. (U. of Illinois Press, 1948) LIMITED TO 550 COPIES. Original green cloth, very good. 29x22cm. Book # ME30211 Price: ¥ 28000.00 (approx. US$ 251.72) The price seems high as it is only one in a set of four. Their contact information is: Kitazawa Bookstore, 2-5 Kanda-Jimbocho, Chiyodaku, TOKYO, Japan, 101-0051. Phone: +81-3-3263-0017. Fax: +81-3-3263-0018. Email: oldbooks@kitazawa.co.jp I would also enjoy hearing about any other facsimile editions as i collect them. hope this helps-john >From: Drew Whitehead >Reply-To: milton-l@richmond.edu >To: milton-l@richmond.edu >Subject: Re: Enquiry: PL Script? >Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 21:23:48 +1000 > >Dear Colleagues, > I was wondering if anyone could give me information >about >facsimile editions of Paradise Lost. I am aware of the 1972 Scolar Press >facsimile of the 1667 ten book edition. So far attempts track down a copy >of this have proved futile. Are there any other editions? > >Drew Whitehead > > > >Drew Whitehead > >Twilight Pictures: The Plays of Beaumont and Fletcher. >http://english.uq.edu.au/drama/fletcher/ > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com From: Dedalus [dedalus204@mediaone.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 8:55 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu; Popilius Subject: Milton Marathon and Playlist A small group of faculty members, students, alumni, and Milton enthusiasts assembled in the library of Argo Community High School for the 2nd Annual Milton Marathon on Saturday, December 9th to celebrate JM's birthday and to read _Paradise Lost_ . Many thanks to Gardner Campbell at Mary Washington University for suggestions on keeping a reader response journal during the marathon. Perhaps the highlight of the event was the soundtrack, a series of selections that a former student, Aleco Julius, assembled and programmed for each Book of PL. For your perusal, I have included the playlist. If any of you have additional musical selections that have worked well for your marathon readings, please let me know! Overall, the event was relaxed, intimate, and enjoyed by all! Tim Strzechowski Argo Community High School Summit, IL ~~~ The 2nd Annual Milton Marathon _Paradise Lost_ Playlist: Book I: Gyorgy Ligeti (1923- ) a) Requiem For Soprano, Mezzo Soprano, Two Mixed Choirs & Orchestra b) Atmospheres c) Adventures Book II: Philip Glass (1937- ) _Concerto for Violin and Orchestra_ Book III: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756-1791) _Requiem_: I: Introitus II: Kyrie elesion III: Sequenz 1. Dies Irae 2. Tuba mirum 3. Rex tremendae majestatis Book IV: The Tony Williams Lifetime (1945-1997) _Emergency_: 1. Emergency 2. Vashkar Book V: Led Zeppelin Symphonic (1969-1982) 1. Kashmir 2. The Battle of Evermore 3. All My Love Book VI: Gustav Holst (1874-1934) _The Planets_: 1. Mars, the Bringer of War 2. Uranus, the Magician Book VII: The Mahavishnu Orchestra (1971- ) _The Inner Mounting Flame_: 1. Meeting of the Spirits 2. Dawn 3. A Lotus on Irish Streams Book VIII: Paul McCartney (1942- ) _Standing Stone_: Movement I: After Heavy Light Years 1. Fire / Rain 2. Cell Growth 3. "Human" Theme Book IX: Miles Davis (1929-1991) _Bitches Brew_: "Bitches Brew" Book X: Sergei Rachmaninoff (1873-1943) _Concerto for Piano and Orchestra No. 3 in D Minor, Opus 30_ 1. Allegro ma non tanto Book XI: Claudio Monteverdi (1567-1643) _Vespers of the Blessed Virgin (1610)_ 1. Psalm 109: Dixit Dominus 2. Psalm 112: Laudate pueri Book XII: Arnold Schoenberg (1874-1951): _Erwartung_, Opus 17: Scenes I-III Neil Young (1945- ): _Harvest_: Words (Between the Lines of Age) From: Greg Benoit [gregwa@gregwa.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:39 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: On-line version of Samson Agonistes Sherry, Here are a couple of links to on-line versions of "Samson." Hope this helps. http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~rbear/samson.html http://www.dartmouth.edu/~milton/reading_room/samson/part_1/index.html Gregory C. Benoit ________________________ gregwa@gregwa.com http://www.gregwa.com From: Kari McBride [kari@u.arizona.edu] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 10:09 AM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: On-line version of Samson Agonistes Reliable editions of many of Milton's works are at the Milton Reading Room: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~milton/reading_room/index.html Samson Agonistes is at: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~milton/reading_room/samson/part_1/index.html From: Carol Barton, PhD [cbartonphd@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 8:23 AM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Enquiry: PL Script? John Geraghty was kind enough to reply to Dr. Hallam's enquiry as follows: The title, Collier, John (John Milton) Milton's Paradise Lost: Screenplay for Cinema of the Mind by John Collier New York Knopf 1973. is listed as available at the following book store: George Lenz Books, 336 New York Avenue, Huntington, NY, U.S.A., 11743. Phone: 631-427-3744. Fax: 631-427-3744. Email: lenzbks@idt.net the condition is: VG in wrappers (softcover) (some wear to cover, 2 punch-holes at. lower left back corner). First PBK edition. Bookseller Inventory # 013407 Price: US$ 15.00 If they still have it they ususally ship the same week. You might also try Edwin McCann, Professor School of Philosophy, USC He offered a course last February using the screenplay as one of the reading materials (in the course reader). Best to all, Carol Barton From: Drew Whitehead [d.whitehead@mailbox.uq.edu.au] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 5:41 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: On-line version of Samson Agonistes At 06:32 AM 12/9/00 -0600, you wrote: >Can anyone give me a web address for a reliable, on-line version of Samson >Agonistes? I had one, but lost it. > >Sherry Zivley The Milton Reading Room has a very large selection of texts. http://www.dartmouth.edu/~milton/ Drew Whitehead Twilight Pictures: The Plays of Beaumont and Fletcher. http://english.uq.edu.au/drama/fletcher/ From: Norman Burns [nburns@binghamton.edu] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 10:36 AM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Enquiry: PL Script? I sent this information off-line to Lisa Hopkins, as Carol Barton suggested. John Collier's scenario for PL is available in about a dozen copies, as cheap as $8. Go to BookFinder: http://www.bookfinder.com/ --Norm Burns At 10:11 AM 12/8/00 -0800, you wrote: >I have been interested in the matter of a script for PL as well. If >anybody has information (I didn't know one even existed until this >morning) would they please post it or e-mail to me directly? I would be >very appreciative. Thanks >Chris Potts From: Carol Barton, PhD [cbartonphd@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 8:45 AM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Happy Holidays By way of wishing everyone a Merry Christmas -- Happy Channukah -- = joyous Kwanzaa -- lovely winter solstice -- and whatever else you may be = celebrating (semester end?), in addition to a happy and healthy New = Year, let me take the liberty of assuming accord of all the members to = thank Kevin Creamer on behalf of the List for all of his diligent and = competent behind-the-scenes work as our resident Dogsbody, Netwallah, = and slave-to-the-List-Serv. His job is not an easy one, especially with = the burden of his non-List responsibilities, and though we rarely see = his "face" online, he's always there in the shadows, making sure the = gears are turning. Thanks, Kevin, from all of us! Carol Barton=20 From: Burbery, Timothy [burbery@MARSHALL.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 3:02 PM To: 'milton-l@richmond.edu' Subject: Sitwell quote - source? Fellow Listers: While preparing a syllabus for my Seventeenth Century Poetry and Prose class, a friend mentioned Edith Sitwell's remark, which runs something like this: "The only two subjects worth writing about are love and the Seventeenth Century, and love's already been written about enough." He didn't know the source of the quote, however. Does anyone know exactly what she said, and where? Thanks, Tim Burbery Marshall University -----Original Message----- From: C. Potts [mailto:cpotts@u.washington.edu] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 1:11 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Enquiry: PL Script? I have been interested in the matter of a script for PL as well. If anybody has information (I didn't know one even existed until this morning) would they please post it or e-mail to me directly? I would be very appreciative. Thanks Chris Potts From: Jameela Lares [jlares@ocean.otr.usm.edu] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 12:13 PM To: "FICINO: FICINO Discussion - Renaissance and Reformation Studies"@argyle.richmond.edu , Milton-List Subject: Has anyone seen this book reviewed? Message-ID: Sender: owner-milton-l@richmond.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: milton-l@richmond.edu Apologies for cross-posting. I hope I may trouble the list to ask whether anyone has ever seen a review in any language whatever for the following book that I am reviewing: Borgogni, Daniele. "Pondering Oft": Lettura argomentativa del "Paradise Regained" di John Milton. Collana del Dipartimento di Scienze Linguistiche e Filologico-Letterarie dell'Area anglo-germanica, new series, 7. Naples: Edizione Scientifiche Italiane, 1998. 269 pp. ISBN 88-8114-612-6. Replies off list are probably best. If anyone wants a summary of replies, I will be happy to oblige. Thanks. Jameela Lares Associate Professor of English University of Southern Mississippi Hattiesburg, MS 39406-5037 +(601) 266-4319 ofc message +(626) 577-5810 home/fax (sabbatical) From: C. Potts [cpotts@u.washington.edu] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 1:11 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Enquiry: PL Script? I have been interested in the matter of a script for PL as well. If anybody has information (I didn't know one even existed until this morning) would they please post it or e-mail to me directly? I would be very appreciative. Thanks Chris Potts From: Sherry Zivley [szivley@uh.edu] Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 7:33 AM To: 'Milton-L@Richmond.edu' Subject: On-line version of Samson Agonistes Can anyone give me a web address for a reliable, on-line version of Samson Agonistes? I had one, but lost it. Sherry Zivley From: Drew Whitehead [d.whitehead@mailbox.uq.edu.au] Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 6:24 AM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Enquiry: PL Script? Dear Colleagues, I was wondering if anyone could give me information about facsimile editions of Paradise Lost. I am aware of the 1972 Scolar Press facsimile of the 1667 ten book edition. So far attempts track down a copy of this have proved futile. Are there any other editions? Drew Whitehead Drew Whitehead Twilight Pictures: The Plays of Beaumont and Fletcher. http://english.uq.edu.au/drama/fletcher/ From: Neil Forsyth [Neil.Forsyth@angl.unil.ch] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 9:05 AM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Re: Enquiry: PL Script? I doubt that a film was made. For one thing the 1973 book, a copy of which I have, is subtitled. "Screenplay for Cinema of the Mind". And for another the text is really a kind of sub-Blakean rewriting. Angels swell suddenly with light to monstrous size, etc. Collier's purpose was to demonstrate his love for the text, or bits of it, and to show how cinematic it is. Except for heaven, which he omits on the grounds that showing God would be embarrassing. > >Does anyone here know anything about John Collier's abortive project to = >make a film of Paradise Lost? A friend is trying to locate a copy of = >the script in connection with a book in process, and is apparently = >having some difficulty coming up with it. She asks that you e-mail her = >directly with any information you may have; please sent it to Dr. Lisa = >Hopkins at L.M.Hopkins@shu.ac.uk , and thanks very much, from both of = >us. Neil Forsyth Faculté des Lettres University of Lausanne CH-1015 Lausanne Switzerland +41 21 692 29 88 FAX: +41 21 692 29 35 e-mail: Neil.Forsyth@ANGL.unil.ch From: Roy Flannagan [roy@gwm.sc.edu] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 8:24 PM To: milton-l@richmond.edu Subject: Christmas good news Dear Members of the Milton Community, The second issue of the Riverside Milton, with no change in pagination but with over 100 revisions according to suggestions by readers, together with corrections, updating, and improvements in formatting, is now the only issue in print. If you order from a college bookstore, please specify that students should get the new issue and not a used copy of the first: Houghton Mifflin has no copies of the first issue in stock. And if you go to MLA, please come to a reception for the Milton Quarterly and for Barbara Lewalski's Life of John Milton, at the Blackwell Publishers booths 117, 118, and 121, Exhibit Hall C, Thursday, December 28th, 2000, 5-6pm, just before the Milton Society meeting. If you would like to make sure there is food for you, be in touch with Rachael Street, rstreet@blackwellpublishers.co.uk. And, if you would like to learn more about scholarly publishing, come to the Council of Editors of Learned Journals sessions, the first night of the conference, December 28. The sessions will be consecutive this year. The first is session 55, the Annual Awards Ceremony. It is in the Park Tower Suite 8206 in the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel, from 7 until 8:15 pm.. The second follows the first. In the program it is no. 70, "Getting Published, Electronically and in Print," it covers from 8:45 to 10 pm, and it is in the same suite at the Marriott. Please visit the CELJ booth as well, where there will be a Chat with the Editor table. Ho, ho, ho to all, Roy Flannagan, President Council of Editors of Learned Journals